Meaning of dissolution of world
People think that Brahma Loka is a place like America. Brahma loka means the life in contact with God existing in human form on this earth and God existing in energetic form in the upper world. If a person on the earth is in contact with the human incarnation of God and subsequently after the death comes in contact with the energetic form of God in the upper world, such a person is said to be in the eternal Brahma loka, since he recognizes God here and there. This is stated as eternal life with God or Parmdhama (Tatdhama paramam mama…Gita). The soul is in human body on this earth and is in energetic form in the upper world. Therefore, God exists in the same common medium of the liberated soul to give this, His eternal association (Nasapunaravartate…Brahma Sutra).
Devotees who have worshiped the statue of energetic form or past human incarnation in this world instead of the contemporary human incarnation, due to ego and jealousy, will reach the energetic form of God in Brahma Loka, but will return back due to repulsion between common media since they were also in the same energetic form (Punaravartinorjuna…..Gita).
People have misunderstood that one who reaches God in medium (Karya Brahman), reaches the original God (ParaBrahman or Nirguna Brahman), when the God in medium (Karya Brahman) dissolves in the original God during the final dissolution of the world. Even if the medium dissolves, the soul cannot reach the unimaginable God because when the medium dissolves, the soul also dissolves. The soul is a part of creation called as Paraprakruti in Gita.
The original single state of God before the first creation will not be attained again because God is not foolish to destroy the creation, which was done for His entertainment. You may say that God has the power to create it again. A producer of a cinema may be very rich to create the cinema again and if he does so, he will be certainly called as a fool.
The dissolution of creation means closing the show of cinema on the curtain, but the cinema is stored in the form of film. Such subtle state of creation is called as Avyaktam. Therefore, there is no point of dissolution of God in medium (Karya Brahman or Eswhara). Since the medium exists, the soul also exists and hence the association of God becomes eternal.
If you say that the soul has to dissolve in God, like sugar dissolved in water, the molecules of sugar remain separately along with the molecules of water. Here, the sugar in water exists separately in invisible microstate. If you say that sugar must be transformed into water, the molecules of sugar have to be re-arranged into molecules of water by the re-arrangement of fundamental particles (protons, neutrons and electrons). Then the number of water molecules increase. It means God will increase in size after the transformation of soul in to God. This is not acceptable because God is constant without any change.
Alternatively, the soul should disappear and this is possible when the film is destroyed. But God is never such a fool! The single state of God is possible because it existed before the first creation and if God wishes it can be attained again. We do not say that it is impossible for God. We only say that God is wise to continue the creation in microstate of the film so that it can be projected for entertainment again and again. Hence, when the devotee reaches Eshwara, the devotee reached the original God also.
The original God may enter the devotee also like the current entering the associated metallic wire from the live wire. In such case, you can say that the soul became God from the point of normal external view and you can call this as monism (Advaita). But in subtle view, God charges the soul and therefore dualism exists even in the monism on deep analysis. When sugar dissolves in water, you may say it as monism but in subtle view dualism exists because the invisible sugar molecules exist separately along with molecules of water as you can see in the microscope.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Why are people indulged in killing each other in the name of God?
The original founders of the religions were the human incarnations of the same God like Krishna, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha etc. Every religion says that their God only created this entire earth or this entire humanity. Unfortunately, there is only one earth and this proves that there is only one God mentioned by all the religions. Since God is one and the same, there cannot be contradicting concepts between the religions. But we find some contradictions and people are divided based on these contradictions. This division is leading to quarrels and finally killing each other. These contradictions cannot be from God because there is only one God as said above.
These contradictions were introduced into the religions by some misinterpretations of the followers only in the name of God. Hence the killing is also done in the name of God only. Q`ran says that you should protect even the follower of other religion and convey the message of Allah to him. It is left to him to follow or not. Hiranyakashipu worshipped Lord Shiva and his son Prahlada ( a great devotee) worshipped Lord Vishnu. Lord Vishnu killed Hiranyakashipu not because he is worshipping Lord Shiva but because he tortured Prahlada to change his religion of worshiping Vishnu. In fact Shiva is Vishnu (Shivashcha Naarayanah....-Veda). The conclusion of this is that God will punish you if you torture the devotee of any religion obstructing the freedom of his religion. Prahlada did not force his father to worship Vishnu. The same God exists in different forms in different religions. Hinduism is a mini model of unity in diversity that should exist in the universe as universal spirituality.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org
These contradictions were introduced into the religions by some misinterpretations of the followers only in the name of God. Hence the killing is also done in the name of God only. Q`ran says that you should protect even the follower of other religion and convey the message of Allah to him. It is left to him to follow or not. Hiranyakashipu worshipped Lord Shiva and his son Prahlada ( a great devotee) worshipped Lord Vishnu. Lord Vishnu killed Hiranyakashipu not because he is worshipping Lord Shiva but because he tortured Prahlada to change his religion of worshiping Vishnu. In fact Shiva is Vishnu (Shivashcha Naarayanah....-Veda). The conclusion of this is that God will punish you if you torture the devotee of any religion obstructing the freedom of his religion. Prahlada did not force his father to worship Vishnu. The same God exists in different forms in different religions. Hinduism is a mini model of unity in diversity that should exist in the universe as universal spirituality.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org
Excess of wealth is the real death of any soul
The excess of wealth is not poison if it is linked to spiritual line
A poor fellow was a disciple of Shri Akkalkot Maharaj. Shri Maharaj took that fellow to a forest and showed an abode of snakes. Shri Maharaj asked him to take two snakes in to his bag. The disciple took two snakes with lot of fear and took them to his house. When he opened the bag, both the snakes were found to be two rods of gold. What is the message of this story?
Shri Maharaj was the human incarnation of Lord Datta and was called as Samartha Sadguru, which means that He was the capable human form of the Lord appearing as the preacher. Hence, the message must be very capable. The message of Lord Datta in this story is that the excess of money indicated by the abode of snakes is very harmful like the poisonous snakes. Nobody can escape the poisonous bite of a cluster of snakes. The poison is the ego that is injected into the human brain due to excess money, which kills the life. Here the life is the spiritual life.
In the Sanatsujatiyam of Mahabharata, it is told that the death means forgetting God and not leaving the human body. Leaving the old human body is like changing the old shirt, which should be really an occasion of happiness only. Death means an occasion of lot of unhappiness, which is only when God is forgotten. Therefore, the message of Maharaj is that the excess of wealth is the real death of any soul.
Only Lord Narayana lying on a big serpent and Lord Shiva wearing serpents as jewels are exceptional cases that are not affected by these poisonous serpents (excess wealth). This means that the excess of wealth is not poison, if it is linked to spiritual line. The Lord advised the devotee to take only two serpents indicating the limited wealth meant for materialistic life. Generally there is a possibility of escaping the bite from two snakes.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
A poor fellow was a disciple of Shri Akkalkot Maharaj. Shri Maharaj took that fellow to a forest and showed an abode of snakes. Shri Maharaj asked him to take two snakes in to his bag. The disciple took two snakes with lot of fear and took them to his house. When he opened the bag, both the snakes were found to be two rods of gold. What is the message of this story?
Shri Maharaj was the human incarnation of Lord Datta and was called as Samartha Sadguru, which means that He was the capable human form of the Lord appearing as the preacher. Hence, the message must be very capable. The message of Lord Datta in this story is that the excess of money indicated by the abode of snakes is very harmful like the poisonous snakes. Nobody can escape the poisonous bite of a cluster of snakes. The poison is the ego that is injected into the human brain due to excess money, which kills the life. Here the life is the spiritual life.
In the Sanatsujatiyam of Mahabharata, it is told that the death means forgetting God and not leaving the human body. Leaving the old human body is like changing the old shirt, which should be really an occasion of happiness only. Death means an occasion of lot of unhappiness, which is only when God is forgotten. Therefore, the message of Maharaj is that the excess of wealth is the real death of any soul.
Only Lord Narayana lying on a big serpent and Lord Shiva wearing serpents as jewels are exceptional cases that are not affected by these poisonous serpents (excess wealth). This means that the excess of wealth is not poison, if it is linked to spiritual line. The Lord advised the devotee to take only two serpents indicating the limited wealth meant for materialistic life. Generally there is a possibility of escaping the bite from two snakes.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Monday, August 23, 2010
Concept of Human Incarnation
Mohammad was also human incarnation of God like Jesus, Buddha and Krishna. The unimaginable God possess a human being, who is a deserving devotee selected by God to become a member of His inner most circle. Just like the current enters a metallic wire, the unimaginable God enters an imaginable item of creation, which is always a human being. Here the current is not transformed into the wire. Current did not become the wire. Current only entered the wire. The wire is the medium of current. Similarly, God is not transformed in to human being or God did not become the human being (Avyaktam vyaktimaapannam—Gita). God only entered the human being, which is a medium only as said in Veda (Tadevanupravishat) and Gita (Manusheemtanumaashritam).
Sometimes, God may enter the human being from its birth and stay in it till its death and such human incarnation is called as Purnaavatara. Sometimes God may enter the human being for some purpose and when the work is over, God will leave it and such human incarnation is called as Aveshaavatara like Parashurama. In any case, the human incarnation can be treated as God as long as God stays in it. The metallic wire is called as current as long as current flows in it. This does not mean that the wire became the current or current became the wire. Therefore, neither God became the human being nor the human being became God.
If you do not understand the concept of human incarnation, you will mistake the human being possessed by God, who claims Himself as God. When the human incarnation says that he is God, it means that God in human incarnation is stating that, and it is not the statement of the human being present in the human incarnation. People mistake this statement as the word of human being since God is invisible. Every statement of the human incarnation is attributed by normal public to the visible human being and not to the invisible God. Therefore, people should recognize God in the human being in the case of human incarnation before understanding its statements. Otherwise, the statements of human incarnation lead to confusion and misunderstanding, which may sometimes result in insult (Avajanantimaam—Gita) or even torture and killing as in the case of Jesus.
In order to avoid this confusion in the case of normal human beings, Mohammad denied the very concept of human incarnation. Just after Jesus, the 41st prophet, Mohammad, the 42nd prophet, appeared and the subject of misunderstanding the statements of human incarnation was the burning topic. The God component in the human incarnation, Jesus, stated that He is the truth and light. This statement clearly says that He is the absolute God and such statement is straightly from the God-component only. Since people could not recognize the existence of God in a human being due to the absence of knowledge of the concept of human incarnation, people misunderstood this as the statement coming from an egoistic human being and therefore insulted and finally crucified Jesus.
Since the concept of human incarnation could not enter the brains of people, all this calamity happened. People could have excused Jesus, if He declared Himself as a prophet or messenger at least. When the concept does not enter the brains of the people in spite of hectic effort of Jesus, Mohammad thought that it is better to remove the concept temporarily and be in line of the public. A PG (Post Graduate) course concept cannot be introduced in the class of LKG (Lower Kindergarten). Even though the PG concept is avoided, there are several LKG concepts to be introduced. Similarly, even though the concept of human incarnation is avoided there are several basic concepts like fear for God and sin to be introduced to maintain the balance of the society. Therefore, Mohammad declared Himself as the prophet or messenger only and not as human incarnation.
In fact, He was the human incarnation, but He hid this truth from the viewpoint of the prevailing level of minds of the public. Suppression of PG concept in the LKG class does not mean that the PG concept is negated and false. You have to travel along with the ignorance of the people for some time and you have to introduce the proper concept at the proper time only. It is like temporary running along with a strong bull before you stop it. You have to accept and support the strong ignorance for some time to become the friend of the ignorant people and slowly you have to remove the ignorance in course of long period only. You should not clash with strong points of ignorance in the beginning itself to become their enemy. In such case, you can never advise them and they will not listen to any other light point also. All this is psychology and a teacher should be well versed in knowing the psychology of the students before teaching the concepts.
God is omnipotent and can enter the human form and nobody can object His omnipotence. Therefore, you cannot oppose the concept of human incarnation based on the inability of God. When it is possible for God, why should you object it? You may say that the greatest God should not be insulted by degrading Himself in becoming an ordinary human being. Your objection may be sustained if there is real transformation of God into a human being. Here the concept is that God is situated in the human being for some time for a special purpose. If the king entered a hut and stays in it for some time for some specific purpose, the king is not degraded. The king did not become the poor man, who is the owner of the hut. The king entered the hut and the owner of the hut is serving him as a slave. Similarly, when God enters the human being, the soul becomes His slave and serves God. The main specific purpose is to clarify the doubts of devotees directly.
The prophet or messenger brings the message of God and delivers it to the people without any change in it. Such messenger is the best. Some messengers change the message as per their liking. Therefore, the best is that God delivers the message directly to the people through the mouth of human incarnation. Fortunately, Mohammad is the human incarnation and not simply the messenger, and therefore the message, Q’ran, was not at all polluted. Similar is the case with Bible. There need not be any doubt about Gita since Krishna Himself declared as God.
Even Buddha was a human incarnation and kept silent about the concept of human incarnation. In His time most of the people were atheists (Purvameemamsakas), who were even denying the existence of God and were involved in performing the sacrifices (Yajnas) to go to heaven for fulfilling their excess desires. The atmosphere was not congenial even for introduction of concept of the existence of God. Therefore, Buddha kept silent about God and His silence was meaningful because the absolute unimaginable God cannot be explained by words. He concentrated on the eradication of desires, which will help in getting the grace of God through selfless service.
This suppression of the fact in view of the prevailing atmosphere was mistaken by the followers, who thought that Buddha was an atheist. All the followers of Buddha became atheists, but they were developing some discipline over the control of desire. A defect is allowed for some time in view of growing some merit. Even though atheism was allowed, the control of desire was achieved. A strong defect should not be contradicted in the beginning and it is better to concentrate on some other easier concept to be introduced.
The direct preaching of right spiritual knowledge and direct clarification of doubts is the primary aim of human incarnation. Nothing can be achieved if the knowledge is imperfect or incomplete. While serving this primary aim, other secondary aims like desire of devotees to see, touch and live with God are also accomplished. If you go to Delhi to attend a seminar on behalf of your job, you have served the primary aim. You may purchase a sari for your wife in Delhi and this is a secondary work. There is nothing wrong with the secondary work as long as the primary work is not disturbed.
A devotee said “People have developed surprising logic to support human incarnation! People say that God enters the humanity in the form of a human being to know the problems of human beings. The omniscient God can know the problems of humanity even without such entry”. I wondered at this statement. Who are the people, who developed such surprising logic? Nobody said like that. You yourself developed this laughable logic and you yourself condemn it! You want to beat somebody, call him as dog and then beat him since he is dog according to you! The devotees wanted to see, touch, talk and live with God. All these desires are secondary only and are accomplished while serving the primary purpose, which is to come in human form to preach and clarify the correct spiritual knowledge directly. While serving the primary purpose, the secondary works, which are the above desires of devotees, are also fulfilled.
The unimaginable God is invisible to even your imagination and therefore can never become visible to your eyes. He is always unimaginable since He has no spatial dimensions. Such state of God maintains the greatest and highest status. Since such God is never modified to become any imaginable item of creation, His highest dignity was always maintained. The human incarnation does not mean the modification of God into human being. The human being is only an extra medium or house for God to stay to accomplish the divine primary purpose of preaching the true spiritual knowledge.
The human incarnation does not mean also God staying in human body. It is only a visit of king to the hut, while the owner of hut also exists along with the king to serve him and get his grace. Veda says that two birds live on a tree and one bird is shining without eating while the other bird is eating the fruits (Dvaasuparnaa……). This means that God has nothing to do with the fruits of the deeds of the human being while He stays in that human body. The insult of Parashurama was the fruit of his own ego and God in him has nothing to do with it. Therefore, God is neither transformed into human being nor even entangled with the fruits of the human being, even though He stays along with the human being in His human body. The king has nothing to do with the crimes of the owner of the hut, since the king stayed in it for some time. In fact, the king himself is going to punish the owner of the hut for his crimes.
God staying in the body of Parashurama only punished Parashurama for his ego. Therefore, the God is not polluted in any way by becoming the human incarnation. God remains impartial to every human being and will not spare even the human being associated with Him in the human incarnation. Of course, the human being in the human incarnation will be separately rewarded for his service to God. A student will be given gold medal for his excellent performance in the examination but will not be spared from the disciplinary action for his wrong behavior. The human being in the human incarnation is as good as any other human being in the world either in the case of reward for his service or in the case of punishment for his sin. The sin will never be excused by the prayers or good deeds, which will have separate rewards. Ravana was rewarded with miraculous powers for his worship and penance. But, he was punished by God for his sin towards Sita separately.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Sometimes, God may enter the human being from its birth and stay in it till its death and such human incarnation is called as Purnaavatara. Sometimes God may enter the human being for some purpose and when the work is over, God will leave it and such human incarnation is called as Aveshaavatara like Parashurama. In any case, the human incarnation can be treated as God as long as God stays in it. The metallic wire is called as current as long as current flows in it. This does not mean that the wire became the current or current became the wire. Therefore, neither God became the human being nor the human being became God.
If you do not understand the concept of human incarnation, you will mistake the human being possessed by God, who claims Himself as God. When the human incarnation says that he is God, it means that God in human incarnation is stating that, and it is not the statement of the human being present in the human incarnation. People mistake this statement as the word of human being since God is invisible. Every statement of the human incarnation is attributed by normal public to the visible human being and not to the invisible God. Therefore, people should recognize God in the human being in the case of human incarnation before understanding its statements. Otherwise, the statements of human incarnation lead to confusion and misunderstanding, which may sometimes result in insult (Avajanantimaam—Gita) or even torture and killing as in the case of Jesus.
In order to avoid this confusion in the case of normal human beings, Mohammad denied the very concept of human incarnation. Just after Jesus, the 41st prophet, Mohammad, the 42nd prophet, appeared and the subject of misunderstanding the statements of human incarnation was the burning topic. The God component in the human incarnation, Jesus, stated that He is the truth and light. This statement clearly says that He is the absolute God and such statement is straightly from the God-component only. Since people could not recognize the existence of God in a human being due to the absence of knowledge of the concept of human incarnation, people misunderstood this as the statement coming from an egoistic human being and therefore insulted and finally crucified Jesus.
Since the concept of human incarnation could not enter the brains of people, all this calamity happened. People could have excused Jesus, if He declared Himself as a prophet or messenger at least. When the concept does not enter the brains of the people in spite of hectic effort of Jesus, Mohammad thought that it is better to remove the concept temporarily and be in line of the public. A PG (Post Graduate) course concept cannot be introduced in the class of LKG (Lower Kindergarten). Even though the PG concept is avoided, there are several LKG concepts to be introduced. Similarly, even though the concept of human incarnation is avoided there are several basic concepts like fear for God and sin to be introduced to maintain the balance of the society. Therefore, Mohammad declared Himself as the prophet or messenger only and not as human incarnation.
In fact, He was the human incarnation, but He hid this truth from the viewpoint of the prevailing level of minds of the public. Suppression of PG concept in the LKG class does not mean that the PG concept is negated and false. You have to travel along with the ignorance of the people for some time and you have to introduce the proper concept at the proper time only. It is like temporary running along with a strong bull before you stop it. You have to accept and support the strong ignorance for some time to become the friend of the ignorant people and slowly you have to remove the ignorance in course of long period only. You should not clash with strong points of ignorance in the beginning itself to become their enemy. In such case, you can never advise them and they will not listen to any other light point also. All this is psychology and a teacher should be well versed in knowing the psychology of the students before teaching the concepts.
God is omnipotent and can enter the human form and nobody can object His omnipotence. Therefore, you cannot oppose the concept of human incarnation based on the inability of God. When it is possible for God, why should you object it? You may say that the greatest God should not be insulted by degrading Himself in becoming an ordinary human being. Your objection may be sustained if there is real transformation of God into a human being. Here the concept is that God is situated in the human being for some time for a special purpose. If the king entered a hut and stays in it for some time for some specific purpose, the king is not degraded. The king did not become the poor man, who is the owner of the hut. The king entered the hut and the owner of the hut is serving him as a slave. Similarly, when God enters the human being, the soul becomes His slave and serves God. The main specific purpose is to clarify the doubts of devotees directly.
The prophet or messenger brings the message of God and delivers it to the people without any change in it. Such messenger is the best. Some messengers change the message as per their liking. Therefore, the best is that God delivers the message directly to the people through the mouth of human incarnation. Fortunately, Mohammad is the human incarnation and not simply the messenger, and therefore the message, Q’ran, was not at all polluted. Similar is the case with Bible. There need not be any doubt about Gita since Krishna Himself declared as God.
Even Buddha was a human incarnation and kept silent about the concept of human incarnation. In His time most of the people were atheists (Purvameemamsakas), who were even denying the existence of God and were involved in performing the sacrifices (Yajnas) to go to heaven for fulfilling their excess desires. The atmosphere was not congenial even for introduction of concept of the existence of God. Therefore, Buddha kept silent about God and His silence was meaningful because the absolute unimaginable God cannot be explained by words. He concentrated on the eradication of desires, which will help in getting the grace of God through selfless service.
This suppression of the fact in view of the prevailing atmosphere was mistaken by the followers, who thought that Buddha was an atheist. All the followers of Buddha became atheists, but they were developing some discipline over the control of desire. A defect is allowed for some time in view of growing some merit. Even though atheism was allowed, the control of desire was achieved. A strong defect should not be contradicted in the beginning and it is better to concentrate on some other easier concept to be introduced.
The direct preaching of right spiritual knowledge and direct clarification of doubts is the primary aim of human incarnation. Nothing can be achieved if the knowledge is imperfect or incomplete. While serving this primary aim, other secondary aims like desire of devotees to see, touch and live with God are also accomplished. If you go to Delhi to attend a seminar on behalf of your job, you have served the primary aim. You may purchase a sari for your wife in Delhi and this is a secondary work. There is nothing wrong with the secondary work as long as the primary work is not disturbed.
A devotee said “People have developed surprising logic to support human incarnation! People say that God enters the humanity in the form of a human being to know the problems of human beings. The omniscient God can know the problems of humanity even without such entry”. I wondered at this statement. Who are the people, who developed such surprising logic? Nobody said like that. You yourself developed this laughable logic and you yourself condemn it! You want to beat somebody, call him as dog and then beat him since he is dog according to you! The devotees wanted to see, touch, talk and live with God. All these desires are secondary only and are accomplished while serving the primary purpose, which is to come in human form to preach and clarify the correct spiritual knowledge directly. While serving the primary purpose, the secondary works, which are the above desires of devotees, are also fulfilled.
The unimaginable God is invisible to even your imagination and therefore can never become visible to your eyes. He is always unimaginable since He has no spatial dimensions. Such state of God maintains the greatest and highest status. Since such God is never modified to become any imaginable item of creation, His highest dignity was always maintained. The human incarnation does not mean the modification of God into human being. The human being is only an extra medium or house for God to stay to accomplish the divine primary purpose of preaching the true spiritual knowledge.
The human incarnation does not mean also God staying in human body. It is only a visit of king to the hut, while the owner of hut also exists along with the king to serve him and get his grace. Veda says that two birds live on a tree and one bird is shining without eating while the other bird is eating the fruits (Dvaasuparnaa……). This means that God has nothing to do with the fruits of the deeds of the human being while He stays in that human body. The insult of Parashurama was the fruit of his own ego and God in him has nothing to do with it. Therefore, God is neither transformed into human being nor even entangled with the fruits of the human being, even though He stays along with the human being in His human body. The king has nothing to do with the crimes of the owner of the hut, since the king stayed in it for some time. In fact, the king himself is going to punish the owner of the hut for his crimes.
God staying in the body of Parashurama only punished Parashurama for his ego. Therefore, the God is not polluted in any way by becoming the human incarnation. God remains impartial to every human being and will not spare even the human being associated with Him in the human incarnation. Of course, the human being in the human incarnation will be separately rewarded for his service to God. A student will be given gold medal for his excellent performance in the examination but will not be spared from the disciplinary action for his wrong behavior. The human being in the human incarnation is as good as any other human being in the world either in the case of reward for his service or in the case of punishment for his sin. The sin will never be excused by the prayers or good deeds, which will have separate rewards. Ravana was rewarded with miraculous powers for his worship and penance. But, he was punished by God for his sin towards Sita separately.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Tuesday, August 17, 2010
Solve contradictions or continue religious wars
When there is a contradiction between different scriptures, you neither solve it nor allow Me to solve it. Hinduism says that the soul has rebirth. Christianity says that the soul has no rebirth and that it goes to God or hell permanently. You want to keep this contradiction alive and fight with Hinduism. I want to end the fight since I wish that both Christians and Hindus must love each other like brothers, since both are children of the same God.
Here My solution is: The soul has only one chance or spiritual opportunity and if the soul slips from that, the soul will not get such rebirth again (in which he has the same spiritual opportunity as in this birth). In this angle, the soul has no rebirth. The soul may be born as animal or as a human being having the nature of the animal. An animal or an animal-like human being is one and the same in the sense that both do not realize their mistakes even during the punishment. Therefore, the sin is committed again. Your objection is ruled out because both humans and animals alike have the animal nature of not realizing their mistakes.
I am not denying the external hell with liquid fire. But there is also a small reflection of hell on this earth to indicate the existence of hell. Thus, the births of animals, worms etc., can be treated as punishments and such births can be taken as minor reflections of hell. Hinduism says that such births constitute the hell on earth, which is a part of the external hell. Therefore, even if I say that sinners are born as worms or even worm-like human beings, it can be taken as a part of the permanent hell. For you, the Bible is the only scripture. For Me, the scriptures of all the religions stand as reference books. You have no responsibility of removing the contradictions. But, I have that responsibility.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness, Sri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org
Here My solution is: The soul has only one chance or spiritual opportunity and if the soul slips from that, the soul will not get such rebirth again (in which he has the same spiritual opportunity as in this birth). In this angle, the soul has no rebirth. The soul may be born as animal or as a human being having the nature of the animal. An animal or an animal-like human being is one and the same in the sense that both do not realize their mistakes even during the punishment. Therefore, the sin is committed again. Your objection is ruled out because both humans and animals alike have the animal nature of not realizing their mistakes.
I am not denying the external hell with liquid fire. But there is also a small reflection of hell on this earth to indicate the existence of hell. Thus, the births of animals, worms etc., can be treated as punishments and such births can be taken as minor reflections of hell. Hinduism says that such births constitute the hell on earth, which is a part of the external hell. Therefore, even if I say that sinners are born as worms or even worm-like human beings, it can be taken as a part of the permanent hell. For you, the Bible is the only scripture. For Me, the scriptures of all the religions stand as reference books. You have no responsibility of removing the contradictions. But, I have that responsibility.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness, Sri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org
Does Heaven and Hell Exist?
This universe is infinite. I am unable to show the existence of these super worlds to you. I accept my incapability. But you are also incapable to prove directly the non-existence of these super worlds. Have you searched all over the universe and said, "Here ends the universe. Beyond this point there is no universe. This is the compound wall of the space. Your super world does not exist anywhere’’? Therefore, there is equal chance for the existence and non-existence of the super worlds according to the theory of probability.
Now let us analyse both of our cases. Both of us are eating to live. The basic needs are satisfied in the cases of both of us. You have spent extra time also in earning more money, which may give you some problems of health like diabetes, blood pressure etc., due to over-enjoyment. I have not earned more money and I am healthy due to normal food. None of us will carry the money with us after death. The money given to the children may also be lost in several ways. Therefore, I do not find much difference between us, once the basic needs are satisfied. I am poor because I have spent my extra time in the service of God.
Suppose after my death, you are correct and there are no super worlds. In such case what I have lost? There is no loss for me. But after your death, suppose I am correct and there are super worlds. You have lost every thing and God will not save you. Thus, even on accepting your argument, based on the equal probability, it is better to serve the Lord by sacrificing the extra time and energy for the Lord after earning the basic needs. You must read the theory of probability, which is perfectly a scientific theory.
At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
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Now let us analyse both of our cases. Both of us are eating to live. The basic needs are satisfied in the cases of both of us. You have spent extra time also in earning more money, which may give you some problems of health like diabetes, blood pressure etc., due to over-enjoyment. I have not earned more money and I am healthy due to normal food. None of us will carry the money with us after death. The money given to the children may also be lost in several ways. Therefore, I do not find much difference between us, once the basic needs are satisfied. I am poor because I have spent my extra time in the service of God.
Suppose after my death, you are correct and there are no super worlds. In such case what I have lost? There is no loss for me. But after your death, suppose I am correct and there are super worlds. You have lost every thing and God will not save you. Thus, even on accepting your argument, based on the equal probability, it is better to serve the Lord by sacrificing the extra time and energy for the Lord after earning the basic needs. You must read the theory of probability, which is perfectly a scientific theory.
At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
The only knowable experience about God is that God exists
God is always unimaginable and unknowable for any human being under any circumstances because He is beyond the dimensions of space and time and this is very much stressed in Veda and Gita. There is no second thought about this point and Shankara also told the same, that God could be understood only in deep sleep. In deep sleep (Sushupti) there is no item that understands (Jnata) because the process of understanding (Jnanam) disappears. When the process of burning disappears, there is no fire. If you say that the process of knowing itself is the knower, then also the knower is absent because there is no process of knowing in the deep sleep. The knower can be no more a knower if the knower loses the process or quality of knowing. Then the knower is converted into inert item in deep sleep. In fact, this is true according to science also because the knower or process of knowing is converted into inert energy in deep sleep.
Shankara means by this that God is unknown as indicated by the deep sleep, in which a state of total ignorance remains indicating that any one is totally ignorant about God (Sushuptyekasiddhah…). You cannot say that the knower or the process of knowing (Knowledge) itself is God, because in such case God is not eternal who is daily vanishing (converted into inert energy) and is daily born (inert energy is converted into knower or knowledge). This is not acceptable because God is eternal. To evaluate the unknowable answer, you represent the answer by X and then get the answer for X using the given data. But in the case of God, the answer will be always unknowable and unimaginable only.
The link between the unknowable God and the knowable items of the world is also unknowable and hence no related data of God can be knowable. In the problem, since the answer is knowable, the data related to the knowable answer is also knowable with the help of which the knowable answer can be evaluated. But that is not the case with God. Hence, any knowable item of the creation can be made as the representative of God. The only knowable experience about God is that God exists. This is established by the knowable experience of unknowable nature of God. The unknowable nature of God is experienced but such nature cannot be analyzed and hence such nature is always concluded as unknowable. For example a small boy ( Krishna ) lifting up the huge mountain is seen and the existence of the unknowable nature of the boy is experienced. Since, such nature could not be analyzed, it remains always as the unknowable item. Hence, Veda says that only the existence of the unknowable God is experienced (Astetyeva….). Since, there is full freedom in selecting any knowable item to represent God, the best suitable item for explaining the status of the unimaginable God is awareness according to Shankara.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness, Sri Dattaswami
Dattaji
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Shankara means by this that God is unknown as indicated by the deep sleep, in which a state of total ignorance remains indicating that any one is totally ignorant about God (Sushuptyekasiddhah…). You cannot say that the knower or the process of knowing (Knowledge) itself is God, because in such case God is not eternal who is daily vanishing (converted into inert energy) and is daily born (inert energy is converted into knower or knowledge). This is not acceptable because God is eternal. To evaluate the unknowable answer, you represent the answer by X and then get the answer for X using the given data. But in the case of God, the answer will be always unknowable and unimaginable only.
The link between the unknowable God and the knowable items of the world is also unknowable and hence no related data of God can be knowable. In the problem, since the answer is knowable, the data related to the knowable answer is also knowable with the help of which the knowable answer can be evaluated. But that is not the case with God. Hence, any knowable item of the creation can be made as the representative of God. The only knowable experience about God is that God exists. This is established by the knowable experience of unknowable nature of God. The unknowable nature of God is experienced but such nature cannot be analyzed and hence such nature is always concluded as unknowable. For example a small boy ( Krishna ) lifting up the huge mountain is seen and the existence of the unknowable nature of the boy is experienced. Since, such nature could not be analyzed, it remains always as the unknowable item. Hence, Veda says that only the existence of the unknowable God is experienced (Astetyeva….). Since, there is full freedom in selecting any knowable item to represent God, the best suitable item for explaining the status of the unimaginable God is awareness according to Shankara.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness, Sri Dattaswami
Dattaji
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Brahma Jnana in a nutshell
Veda says that God is the first preacher and He is called as Kashyapa because He is the pashyaka. Since, the meaning of pashyaka is that ‘He who sees the subtle meaning of the scripture’ (Kashyapah pashyako bhavati). This first preacher preached the spiritual knowledge regarding the information about absolute God called as Brahmajnana to Sun in the beginning as said in Gita (Imam vivasvate). The Sun preached this to his first son, Shanaishchara, who is called as Jnanakaraka or the initiator of knowledge. This knowledge was passed onto his brother called Yama. From Yama the knowledge was achieved by Nachaketa, who brought it to the earth and was propagated to the human beings. These five preachers are called as the five fires (Panchaagni). The preacher or Guru is compared to the fire since the knowledge itself is the fire that burns the ignorance to ash as said in Gita (Jnanagnih…).
The first preacher is Krishna and He is also called as Datta. Datta means, the unimaginable God given to the world in the imaginable medium, which is the human form as said in Gita. Gita says that God is unimaginable (Mamtuvedana…) and that God comes in human form (Manusheemtanu…). Krishna is the human form charged by the unimaginable God. All the human incarnations are the human forms charged by unimaginable God.
Datta is said to be famous for creating troubles to others. People fear to worship Datta due to this point only. It is said that Datta cuts the worldly bonds and hence Datta is the trouble shooter. Everybody wants happiness by nourishing their worldly bonds. Everybody thinks that happiness comes through growth of money, children etc., which are the worldly bonds. Datta tries to cut these worldly bonds through the spiritual knowledge. In fact, these worldly bonds are not directly cut. When the bond with God is formed, all these worldly bonds perish spontaneously. The attachment to God, called as devotion (Bhakti), leads to subsequent detachment from the world called as vairagya.
It is general observation that whenever you are really attached to something, you are naturally detached from all other things. When you are attached to the cinema, you forget all other things. Thus, the detachment from the world is a subsequent consequence of devotion only. Without devotion, the detachment is false and meaningless. The detachment from the world should be always with reference to the attachment to God. The Vairagya is always relative with reference to the devotion and is not an absolute concept. The absolute concept is only devotion. You should not give importance to people seeing their detachment but should give value for their attachment to God. Foolish people give value to the detachment even though the attachment to God is absent. You are giving value to a person who is fasting and you are considering him as devotee. He may be fasting due to stomach ache. If he is fasting due to devotion on God, such fasting is valid. If the devotee forgets food in the memory of God, such fasting is real. But, people are fasting by taking alternative tiffins which are more qualitative and energetic having more taste than ordinary food! Therefore, Datta is not cutting your worldly bonds.
Due to your attachment to Datta, the worldly bonds are dropped as subsequent consequences. There is no effort in the destruction of worldly bonds. When you are tasting some better drink, the coffee is naturally dropped. Such natural drop is the real detachment. The detachment should be natural without any effort. If the detachment is with effort, you are pained.
Now, when you are detached from the world spontaneously without effort you are not pained, but others are pained seeing you. In the minds of others, you are thought to be the looser. Therefore, Datta is thought to be the trouble giver in the minds of others and not in your mind. When you drop the coffee by drinking the divine nectar, others think that the divine nectar is cutting your bond with the coffee and thus the divine nectar is the trouble shooter. But, the divine nectar is not the trouble shooter in your view. Thus, Datta is the trouble shooter in the view of the public but not in the view of the devotee. Thus, the saying that ‘Dattam chinnam’, which means that Datta cuts the worldly bonds and gives the problems is valid in the view of the ignorant public only and not in the view of the devoted spiritual aspirant.
The very word Krishna means the process of rubbing, or grinding, or cutting the worldly bonds. The bonds of Gopikas were cut by Krishna and Gopikas were losers in the view of the villagers of Brundavanam. Gopikas lost the butter and were losers in the view of the public. But, in the view of Gopikas, who were the ancient sages, they were the top most gainers. Therefore, the concept depends on the angle of the view.
The Sun is also thought to be the shooter of problem since the heat pains. But, the sunlight is giving topmost advantage, which gives life to the living beings. It removes the darkness and is responsible for the preparation of food in the plants by photosynthesis. Similarly, the advantage in the problems given by Datta is enormous and eternal. The Saturn (Shanaichara) also gives problems to the people in this world. Yama also pains the people through punishments in the hell. This always proves that the real advantage is always associated with troubles and pain only. You are always alert and active in the problems and not in happiness. The spiritual knowledge about absolute God requires highest activity of the brain to understand and analyze the absolute truth.
The absolute truth is the knowledge about the absolute God and that is that God is unimaginable. This is the knowledge given by God to Sun, which is passed to Nachaketa through Saturn and through Yama. Yama told that angels and sages have concluded that God cannot be understood in any way. The practical proof for the existence of unimaginable God, the reason for God is unimaginable, and the logic in the creation of universe from the unimaginable God are the three stages in the spiritual knowledge of the absolute unimaginable God.
The proof for the unimaginable God is the existence of genuine miracles, which are the unimaginable events. A true scientist must accept the truth and recognize the existence of real unimaginable events called as miracles, which are clearly different from the magic show. If you fail in the first phase, there is no need of any further discussions with you. In such case you are blind with the bias and prejudice of treating every miracle as magic show. The existence of false does not mean that there is no truth and everything is false. God is giving miraculous powers even to evil people so that the miracles are propagated in large scale. The punishment of misuse of these powers is a different angle. The other angle is propagation of these miracles in large scale so that everybody recognizes the existence of unimaginable entity through these events.
Everybody is experiencing these miracles in the life period, but some are not recognizing these miracles in the genuine perspective. A miracle establishes the existence of unimaginable nature through the imaginable items. Krishna is an imaginable tender boy. The huge mountain is also an imaginable item. The lifting of one object by other object is also imaginable work. With the help of all these imaginable entities, the unimaginable aspect of lifting the huge mountain by a tender small boy is established. This is unimaginable because no tender boy is able to lift a mountain. These miracles establish the source as the unimaginable entity called as God. The conclusion is that the unimaginable God exists in the imaginable tender boy called as Krishna only and not in any other human being.
The second phase is the reason for the unimaginable nature of God. Everything in this world which has spatial dimensions is imaginable. The spatial dimensions may be very minute but can be recorded through sophisticated instruments and thus the minute entity becomes imaginable. Only an entity not having any spatial dimension becomes unimaginable. Therefore, the reason for the unimaginable nature is only the absence of spatial dimensions. Such an entity must be beyond space.
The third phase is the process of creation of this Universe from such unimaginable entity. There is a logical necessity for the generator of the Universe, which essentially includes space, not to have the spatial dimensions. The logic in the generation processes of worldly items is that the cause exists even in the absence of the effect. The lump of mud exists even if the pot is absent. The mud is the cause and pot is the effect. The imaginable entity having no spatial dimensions must be the cause of this Universe having spatial dimensions. The reason for this is that in the absence of the Universe, which means the absence of the space, the unimaginable entity having no spatial dimensions can exist. The absence of spatial dimension means the absence of space or Universe only. Therefore, the unimaginable God having no spatial dimensions must be the cause, and the Universe, or space, having spatial dimensions must be the effect. Even if the space or universe disappears, the unimaginable God must be left over. Even if the pot is destroyed the mud is left over.
The process of creation of this imaginable space or universe from the unimaginable God must be also unimaginable. The reason is that the process of generation of one imaginable item from another imaginable item is imaginable as we observe in the worldly processes like generation of pot from mud. In fact, space is subtle energy and is something. It is not vacuum which is nothing. Hence there is nothing like nothing. The space bends around the boundaries of the object as per special theory of relativity. Nothing can bend. Something only bends. In Veda it is said that God created space in the beginning and in the same Veda it is also said that God created energy in the beginning. There is no contradiction because space is energy. All this is the spiritual knowledge about the absolute unimaginable God. This is the Brahma Jnana in nutshell.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
The first preacher is Krishna and He is also called as Datta. Datta means, the unimaginable God given to the world in the imaginable medium, which is the human form as said in Gita. Gita says that God is unimaginable (Mamtuvedana…) and that God comes in human form (Manusheemtanu…). Krishna is the human form charged by the unimaginable God. All the human incarnations are the human forms charged by unimaginable God.
Datta is said to be famous for creating troubles to others. People fear to worship Datta due to this point only. It is said that Datta cuts the worldly bonds and hence Datta is the trouble shooter. Everybody wants happiness by nourishing their worldly bonds. Everybody thinks that happiness comes through growth of money, children etc., which are the worldly bonds. Datta tries to cut these worldly bonds through the spiritual knowledge. In fact, these worldly bonds are not directly cut. When the bond with God is formed, all these worldly bonds perish spontaneously. The attachment to God, called as devotion (Bhakti), leads to subsequent detachment from the world called as vairagya.
It is general observation that whenever you are really attached to something, you are naturally detached from all other things. When you are attached to the cinema, you forget all other things. Thus, the detachment from the world is a subsequent consequence of devotion only. Without devotion, the detachment is false and meaningless. The detachment from the world should be always with reference to the attachment to God. The Vairagya is always relative with reference to the devotion and is not an absolute concept. The absolute concept is only devotion. You should not give importance to people seeing their detachment but should give value for their attachment to God. Foolish people give value to the detachment even though the attachment to God is absent. You are giving value to a person who is fasting and you are considering him as devotee. He may be fasting due to stomach ache. If he is fasting due to devotion on God, such fasting is valid. If the devotee forgets food in the memory of God, such fasting is real. But, people are fasting by taking alternative tiffins which are more qualitative and energetic having more taste than ordinary food! Therefore, Datta is not cutting your worldly bonds.
Due to your attachment to Datta, the worldly bonds are dropped as subsequent consequences. There is no effort in the destruction of worldly bonds. When you are tasting some better drink, the coffee is naturally dropped. Such natural drop is the real detachment. The detachment should be natural without any effort. If the detachment is with effort, you are pained.
Now, when you are detached from the world spontaneously without effort you are not pained, but others are pained seeing you. In the minds of others, you are thought to be the looser. Therefore, Datta is thought to be the trouble giver in the minds of others and not in your mind. When you drop the coffee by drinking the divine nectar, others think that the divine nectar is cutting your bond with the coffee and thus the divine nectar is the trouble shooter. But, the divine nectar is not the trouble shooter in your view. Thus, Datta is the trouble shooter in the view of the public but not in the view of the devotee. Thus, the saying that ‘Dattam chinnam’, which means that Datta cuts the worldly bonds and gives the problems is valid in the view of the ignorant public only and not in the view of the devoted spiritual aspirant.
The very word Krishna means the process of rubbing, or grinding, or cutting the worldly bonds. The bonds of Gopikas were cut by Krishna and Gopikas were losers in the view of the villagers of Brundavanam. Gopikas lost the butter and were losers in the view of the public. But, in the view of Gopikas, who were the ancient sages, they were the top most gainers. Therefore, the concept depends on the angle of the view.
The Sun is also thought to be the shooter of problem since the heat pains. But, the sunlight is giving topmost advantage, which gives life to the living beings. It removes the darkness and is responsible for the preparation of food in the plants by photosynthesis. Similarly, the advantage in the problems given by Datta is enormous and eternal. The Saturn (Shanaichara) also gives problems to the people in this world. Yama also pains the people through punishments in the hell. This always proves that the real advantage is always associated with troubles and pain only. You are always alert and active in the problems and not in happiness. The spiritual knowledge about absolute God requires highest activity of the brain to understand and analyze the absolute truth.
The absolute truth is the knowledge about the absolute God and that is that God is unimaginable. This is the knowledge given by God to Sun, which is passed to Nachaketa through Saturn and through Yama. Yama told that angels and sages have concluded that God cannot be understood in any way. The practical proof for the existence of unimaginable God, the reason for God is unimaginable, and the logic in the creation of universe from the unimaginable God are the three stages in the spiritual knowledge of the absolute unimaginable God.
The proof for the unimaginable God is the existence of genuine miracles, which are the unimaginable events. A true scientist must accept the truth and recognize the existence of real unimaginable events called as miracles, which are clearly different from the magic show. If you fail in the first phase, there is no need of any further discussions with you. In such case you are blind with the bias and prejudice of treating every miracle as magic show. The existence of false does not mean that there is no truth and everything is false. God is giving miraculous powers even to evil people so that the miracles are propagated in large scale. The punishment of misuse of these powers is a different angle. The other angle is propagation of these miracles in large scale so that everybody recognizes the existence of unimaginable entity through these events.
Everybody is experiencing these miracles in the life period, but some are not recognizing these miracles in the genuine perspective. A miracle establishes the existence of unimaginable nature through the imaginable items. Krishna is an imaginable tender boy. The huge mountain is also an imaginable item. The lifting of one object by other object is also imaginable work. With the help of all these imaginable entities, the unimaginable aspect of lifting the huge mountain by a tender small boy is established. This is unimaginable because no tender boy is able to lift a mountain. These miracles establish the source as the unimaginable entity called as God. The conclusion is that the unimaginable God exists in the imaginable tender boy called as Krishna only and not in any other human being.
The second phase is the reason for the unimaginable nature of God. Everything in this world which has spatial dimensions is imaginable. The spatial dimensions may be very minute but can be recorded through sophisticated instruments and thus the minute entity becomes imaginable. Only an entity not having any spatial dimension becomes unimaginable. Therefore, the reason for the unimaginable nature is only the absence of spatial dimensions. Such an entity must be beyond space.
The third phase is the process of creation of this Universe from such unimaginable entity. There is a logical necessity for the generator of the Universe, which essentially includes space, not to have the spatial dimensions. The logic in the generation processes of worldly items is that the cause exists even in the absence of the effect. The lump of mud exists even if the pot is absent. The mud is the cause and pot is the effect. The imaginable entity having no spatial dimensions must be the cause of this Universe having spatial dimensions. The reason for this is that in the absence of the Universe, which means the absence of the space, the unimaginable entity having no spatial dimensions can exist. The absence of spatial dimension means the absence of space or Universe only. Therefore, the unimaginable God having no spatial dimensions must be the cause, and the Universe, or space, having spatial dimensions must be the effect. Even if the space or universe disappears, the unimaginable God must be left over. Even if the pot is destroyed the mud is left over.
The process of creation of this imaginable space or universe from the unimaginable God must be also unimaginable. The reason is that the process of generation of one imaginable item from another imaginable item is imaginable as we observe in the worldly processes like generation of pot from mud. In fact, space is subtle energy and is something. It is not vacuum which is nothing. Hence there is nothing like nothing. The space bends around the boundaries of the object as per special theory of relativity. Nothing can bend. Something only bends. In Veda it is said that God created space in the beginning and in the same Veda it is also said that God created energy in the beginning. There is no contradiction because space is energy. All this is the spiritual knowledge about the absolute unimaginable God. This is the Brahma Jnana in nutshell.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Monday, August 16, 2010
God Comes in Human Form in All Places of Earth and in Every Generation
God comes in human form in all places of the earth and also He comes in every generation that contains both good and bad. If devotees of one generation are favored by His direct visit, God becomes partial for no reason. God is not such mad! Priests never accept human form of God before their eyes. They like the worship of models that represent God indirectly, so that the results of worship indirectly come to them finally. Priests did not give place for God after Buddha in Kali age. Buddha came in the beginning of Kali. Priests showed Kalki at the end of this Kali age, – no human form till the end.
Similarly Christian priests opposed Jesus when He was alive. After Jesus, they say that Jesus comes only in the end. The psychology of priests is the same in the whole world! Krishna said that He will come whenever He is required. 'Jesus will come again’ means, He will come in next generation. If the guest says to you that he will come again to you, does it mean that he will come only once in his entire life?
In Christianity the soul after death waits till the final inquiry. In that case the soul meets God twice, once in its lifetime and finally at the time of inquiry. This is justified, if no rebirth. Every soul meets God in human form; once while it exists on the earth in the human body, finally in final inquiry. This is possible only if God comes in every generation. Otherwise, souls born along with Jesus were only lucky, since they alone met God as Jesus and in final inquiry. All the other souls have only one chance to meet finally. This is again blind partiality, – God can never be blind. Any priest in the world does not like contemporary form because the benefits of service to God should come to him.
This is possible only if God is limited to symbolic models. The human psychology is always selfish and egoistic here. Jesus told that He and His father are one and the same. This is Advaita, He told that He is the son of God, this is vishishtadvaita, stating that son is part and parcel of father. Jesus told that He is messenger of God, this is Dvaita stating that God is master and Son of God is His servant.
Mohammad stressed on Dvaita, since all souls are servants. God is the master to be served, then Son of God is not special. This will remove jealousy of priests towards the Son of God. This will avoid crucifixion of Son of God by priests. Remember, Mohammad came just after Jesus and tried to avoid brutal consequences of jealousy of priests on the Son of God or contemporary human incarnation in future. Mohammad said that God never becomes human being. It is perfectly correct; current is not converted into wire. It only entered wire. God in flesh, Manushim Tanumashritam, mean that God entered human body, not converted into human body.
Human body means gross body with the liberated soul selected by God for human incarnation. The soul is a part of the body. The soul is causal body. The qualities in soul are subtle body. The soul acts as personal assistant, as inert as the gross body due to total surrender to God. This soul is the Son of God. Every soul has equal chance to become the Son of God. Every student has equal chance to get the gold medal. But in any year only one student tops and gets gold medal. The other students should not hate the topper by jealousy. The chance given was not properly used by other students. Neither God is partial nor the topper should be blamed. Still there is time, use it, – next time you may be topper.
Even during stay of God, God is God and soul is soul. Even in live wire, current is current and wire is wire. Wire is only treated as current for all practical purposes.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness, Sri Dattaswami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Similarly Christian priests opposed Jesus when He was alive. After Jesus, they say that Jesus comes only in the end. The psychology of priests is the same in the whole world! Krishna said that He will come whenever He is required. 'Jesus will come again’ means, He will come in next generation. If the guest says to you that he will come again to you, does it mean that he will come only once in his entire life?
In Christianity the soul after death waits till the final inquiry. In that case the soul meets God twice, once in its lifetime and finally at the time of inquiry. This is justified, if no rebirth. Every soul meets God in human form; once while it exists on the earth in the human body, finally in final inquiry. This is possible only if God comes in every generation. Otherwise, souls born along with Jesus were only lucky, since they alone met God as Jesus and in final inquiry. All the other souls have only one chance to meet finally. This is again blind partiality, – God can never be blind. Any priest in the world does not like contemporary form because the benefits of service to God should come to him.
This is possible only if God is limited to symbolic models. The human psychology is always selfish and egoistic here. Jesus told that He and His father are one and the same. This is Advaita, He told that He is the son of God, this is vishishtadvaita, stating that son is part and parcel of father. Jesus told that He is messenger of God, this is Dvaita stating that God is master and Son of God is His servant.
Mohammad stressed on Dvaita, since all souls are servants. God is the master to be served, then Son of God is not special. This will remove jealousy of priests towards the Son of God. This will avoid crucifixion of Son of God by priests. Remember, Mohammad came just after Jesus and tried to avoid brutal consequences of jealousy of priests on the Son of God or contemporary human incarnation in future. Mohammad said that God never becomes human being. It is perfectly correct; current is not converted into wire. It only entered wire. God in flesh, Manushim Tanumashritam, mean that God entered human body, not converted into human body.
Human body means gross body with the liberated soul selected by God for human incarnation. The soul is a part of the body. The soul is causal body. The qualities in soul are subtle body. The soul acts as personal assistant, as inert as the gross body due to total surrender to God. This soul is the Son of God. Every soul has equal chance to become the Son of God. Every student has equal chance to get the gold medal. But in any year only one student tops and gets gold medal. The other students should not hate the topper by jealousy. The chance given was not properly used by other students. Neither God is partial nor the topper should be blamed. Still there is time, use it, – next time you may be topper.
Even during stay of God, God is God and soul is soul. Even in live wire, current is current and wire is wire. Wire is only treated as current for all practical purposes.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness, Sri Dattaswami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
God + human being = Human Incarnation
Parashurama was human incarnation of God. Human incarnation means a human being possessed by God. The human being may be of lower type or of higher type. Parashurama is a lower type of human being and Rama, a higher type of human being was also the human incarnation. The unimaginable God charging both the human beings is one and the same. Rama is an alloy of Gold and silver. Parashurama is an alloy of Gold and copper. Gold is one and the same in both the alloys, but silver is higher metal than copper.
Dasharatha or Janaka was a higher type of human being, who is pure silver metal. Rama, Dasharatha and Janaka requested Parashurama not to be furious and the reason for such humble nature of these three people was that these three people were noble persons. God existing in Rama and Parashurama has nothing to do with their individual human natures. God is confined to His specific program only. God will not interfere with the nature and properties of the medium in which He exists. If the nature of the medium changes by the interaction of God, devotees will not freely mix with the human incarnation. The normal nature of the medium always gives a strong impression on the minds of the observers that the human incarnation is a human being only and not God. This impression makes the devotees feel free to interact with the human incarnation with free access to clarify their doubts and get correct direction in the spiritual path. Thus, when Parashurama was shouting with anger on Rama, it is the nature of the human being that is exhibiting the anger.
The human being in this human incarnation was full of Rajas, which is the source of ego. The human being in the human incarnation of Rama was full of Sattvam, which is the source of humility and humbleness. The difference between Rama and Parashurama is the difference between silver and copper and the similarity between them is about the gold. From the point of gold, both are same human incarnation. From the point of silver and copper, the behavior is different. Even Dasaratha and Janaka were pious and humble compared to Parashurama. The human nature of both Dasaratha and Janaka was of higher type than that of Parashurama. As far as the Pravrutti or the human dealing is concerned, it is only the nature of copper and silver to be analyzed and the gold is silent.
You may get a doubt that why the gold is selecting copper for alloying in such case. God selects a particular type of human being for a particular program. God wanted to kill all the Kings, who were showing extreme ego and for this program, the human being full of Rajas is needed. Hence, Parashurama was selected. God wanted to preach the ideal behavior of a perfect human being to the humanity and for this purpose, Rama, with full of Sattvam is selected to suit the program. Therefore, a devotee can be higher than the human incarnation with reference to the human nature.
One day, I told Surya that he is far superior than Myself. He immediately denied this and told that I am God. He believes Me as the human incarnation of God. Assuming that I am the human incarnation, My statement was with reference to the human nature and not with reference to the God existing in Me. I told him that I am copper and he is silver. Therefore, you have to analyze the human incarnation with reference to the medium and God separately.
The prayers of Jesus, a human incarnation, are to be attributed to the human nature of the medium and the statements like that He is the savior must be attributed to God present in him. All the defects of the human incarnation are to be attributed to the human nature of the medium and not to God. Rama went after the golden deer in spite of the advice of Lakshmana. It is the human nature of the medium that made Rama to go after the golden deer due to the blind bond to his wife.
You should not think that the human incarnation is either God or the human being completely. It is a single phase system with two components homogeneously mixed. In certain contexts, it behaves as God and in certain other contexts it behaves as a human being. But, the nature of the human being in the human incarnation is as per the direction of the God only. The God component in Parashurama and Rama is one and the same, which wanted to project the budding Rama and suppress the retiring Parashurama. As per the will of God only, the entire scene took place. The aim of this scene was to show that any human being including the human being present in human incarnation, should not take the credit of power of God on to it. Parashurama thought that he killed all the kings and therefore, he was taught about the truth.
Nikhil was asking that the miracle can be treated as unknown event, which may be known in the future and it need not be unimaginable. As long as it is unknown, it can be treated as unimaginable, which serves the purpose of establishing unimaginable God.
Swami replied:- If every miracle is only unknown, it may serve the purpose of establishing unimaginable God for the time being, but in future, when it is proved that it is knowable unknown only, people will conclude that there is no unimaginable event at all and hence there is no unimaginable God. In this context, another danger also appears which is that even the real unimaginable miracle will be treated as unknown event that can be known after some time in the future. By this, the human being will not accept any genuine miracle throughout its life thinking that the unimaginable event will be solved in some time after its death also.
A genuine miracle, which is really unimaginable event, must be also projected, which can never be analyzed in the future. You may argue that the genuine miracle has the probability of its analysis in the future and that it cannot be completely confirmed as unimaginable today. But, your probability is only fifty percent and there is equal probability of it being unimaginable forever. At least, based on this equal probability of being unimaginable forever, the devotee will have faith in the unimaginable God and in His unimaginable power.
In the case of a genuine miracle, the analysis rejects your equal probability of being unknown today and becoming known in the future. Let us take a case of a tender boy called as Krishna lifting the huge mountain. You may argue that in future there may be a way developed by science to introduce into the boy the huge power to lift the huge mountain. But, such way is impossible because if such huge power is introduced into the body of a human being, the body will be burnt to ash. Hence, such probability is ruled out today itself.
The unknown, which is knowable in future, will always have its boundaries within the limits of the knowledge of knowable creation only and cannot cross these limits. The unimaginable event forever will have its placement always beyond the limits of the logic of the items of creation. Your limits can never extend and enter the place of unimaginable events. You may touch the top rod of the door today and you may touch the roof of the house tomorrow by practice of high jump. The door and the house are within the limits of the possibility of human power. You may say that yesterday the roof of the house was an impossible item, but the house and door are within the limits of human power. The roof of the house was relatively impossible with reference to the door within the possible limits of human being. Based on this, you should not say that you will touch the sky day after tomorrow by high jump. The sky is absolutely impossible, since it is beyond the limits of human being on any day.
There is difference between the absolute and relative impossibilities. I will tell a recent incident also because you may say that Krishna lifting the mountain may be a created story since there is no authority of perception. God existing in Me performed a miracle by which there was fragrance of lotus flowers in the house of a devotee visiting Me. The husband of that devotee never believes the concept of human incarnation. He commented that some chemical might have been dropped by Me in his house. He removed all the articles from the house. Still the fragrance was coming. Then he told that I being a professor of chemistry might have applied some liquid chemical on the wall. Then, he started getting the fragrance wherever he goes. He left the town and traveled up to 200 kilometers. Still the fragrance was coming to him and it was so strong that he was unable to eat and sleep. This happened continuously for a month and his life was in danger. Even then, he does not believe in the human incarnation! The devotee requested Swami to stop the miracle and Swami prayed God. The fragrance was stopped. Then, Swami told that the miracle cannot change such rigid persons.
Duryodhana did not change even though Lord Krishna showed cosmic vision (Vishwavarupam). Therefore, there is no use of arguing with such rigid people. He may say that the science will develop some technique in future so that the human body may withstand such huge power to lift the mountain! This means that the fellow will not accept the genuine miracle at any cost. You should not entertain him any more with any further discussion. Salute him and leave him with folded hands saying that he is stronger than the king of this country. The king, having extreme powers, also may accept the logic in your discussion, but such fellow will never accept you and hence he is stronger than the king. Such fellow deserves highest regards, being more powerful than the king and hence you should salute him before you leave him.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Dasharatha or Janaka was a higher type of human being, who is pure silver metal. Rama, Dasharatha and Janaka requested Parashurama not to be furious and the reason for such humble nature of these three people was that these three people were noble persons. God existing in Rama and Parashurama has nothing to do with their individual human natures. God is confined to His specific program only. God will not interfere with the nature and properties of the medium in which He exists. If the nature of the medium changes by the interaction of God, devotees will not freely mix with the human incarnation. The normal nature of the medium always gives a strong impression on the minds of the observers that the human incarnation is a human being only and not God. This impression makes the devotees feel free to interact with the human incarnation with free access to clarify their doubts and get correct direction in the spiritual path. Thus, when Parashurama was shouting with anger on Rama, it is the nature of the human being that is exhibiting the anger.
The human being in this human incarnation was full of Rajas, which is the source of ego. The human being in the human incarnation of Rama was full of Sattvam, which is the source of humility and humbleness. The difference between Rama and Parashurama is the difference between silver and copper and the similarity between them is about the gold. From the point of gold, both are same human incarnation. From the point of silver and copper, the behavior is different. Even Dasaratha and Janaka were pious and humble compared to Parashurama. The human nature of both Dasaratha and Janaka was of higher type than that of Parashurama. As far as the Pravrutti or the human dealing is concerned, it is only the nature of copper and silver to be analyzed and the gold is silent.
You may get a doubt that why the gold is selecting copper for alloying in such case. God selects a particular type of human being for a particular program. God wanted to kill all the Kings, who were showing extreme ego and for this program, the human being full of Rajas is needed. Hence, Parashurama was selected. God wanted to preach the ideal behavior of a perfect human being to the humanity and for this purpose, Rama, with full of Sattvam is selected to suit the program. Therefore, a devotee can be higher than the human incarnation with reference to the human nature.
One day, I told Surya that he is far superior than Myself. He immediately denied this and told that I am God. He believes Me as the human incarnation of God. Assuming that I am the human incarnation, My statement was with reference to the human nature and not with reference to the God existing in Me. I told him that I am copper and he is silver. Therefore, you have to analyze the human incarnation with reference to the medium and God separately.
The prayers of Jesus, a human incarnation, are to be attributed to the human nature of the medium and the statements like that He is the savior must be attributed to God present in him. All the defects of the human incarnation are to be attributed to the human nature of the medium and not to God. Rama went after the golden deer in spite of the advice of Lakshmana. It is the human nature of the medium that made Rama to go after the golden deer due to the blind bond to his wife.
You should not think that the human incarnation is either God or the human being completely. It is a single phase system with two components homogeneously mixed. In certain contexts, it behaves as God and in certain other contexts it behaves as a human being. But, the nature of the human being in the human incarnation is as per the direction of the God only. The God component in Parashurama and Rama is one and the same, which wanted to project the budding Rama and suppress the retiring Parashurama. As per the will of God only, the entire scene took place. The aim of this scene was to show that any human being including the human being present in human incarnation, should not take the credit of power of God on to it. Parashurama thought that he killed all the kings and therefore, he was taught about the truth.
Nikhil was asking that the miracle can be treated as unknown event, which may be known in the future and it need not be unimaginable. As long as it is unknown, it can be treated as unimaginable, which serves the purpose of establishing unimaginable God.
Swami replied:- If every miracle is only unknown, it may serve the purpose of establishing unimaginable God for the time being, but in future, when it is proved that it is knowable unknown only, people will conclude that there is no unimaginable event at all and hence there is no unimaginable God. In this context, another danger also appears which is that even the real unimaginable miracle will be treated as unknown event that can be known after some time in the future. By this, the human being will not accept any genuine miracle throughout its life thinking that the unimaginable event will be solved in some time after its death also.
A genuine miracle, which is really unimaginable event, must be also projected, which can never be analyzed in the future. You may argue that the genuine miracle has the probability of its analysis in the future and that it cannot be completely confirmed as unimaginable today. But, your probability is only fifty percent and there is equal probability of it being unimaginable forever. At least, based on this equal probability of being unimaginable forever, the devotee will have faith in the unimaginable God and in His unimaginable power.
In the case of a genuine miracle, the analysis rejects your equal probability of being unknown today and becoming known in the future. Let us take a case of a tender boy called as Krishna lifting the huge mountain. You may argue that in future there may be a way developed by science to introduce into the boy the huge power to lift the huge mountain. But, such way is impossible because if such huge power is introduced into the body of a human being, the body will be burnt to ash. Hence, such probability is ruled out today itself.
The unknown, which is knowable in future, will always have its boundaries within the limits of the knowledge of knowable creation only and cannot cross these limits. The unimaginable event forever will have its placement always beyond the limits of the logic of the items of creation. Your limits can never extend and enter the place of unimaginable events. You may touch the top rod of the door today and you may touch the roof of the house tomorrow by practice of high jump. The door and the house are within the limits of the possibility of human power. You may say that yesterday the roof of the house was an impossible item, but the house and door are within the limits of human power. The roof of the house was relatively impossible with reference to the door within the possible limits of human being. Based on this, you should not say that you will touch the sky day after tomorrow by high jump. The sky is absolutely impossible, since it is beyond the limits of human being on any day.
There is difference between the absolute and relative impossibilities. I will tell a recent incident also because you may say that Krishna lifting the mountain may be a created story since there is no authority of perception. God existing in Me performed a miracle by which there was fragrance of lotus flowers in the house of a devotee visiting Me. The husband of that devotee never believes the concept of human incarnation. He commented that some chemical might have been dropped by Me in his house. He removed all the articles from the house. Still the fragrance was coming. Then he told that I being a professor of chemistry might have applied some liquid chemical on the wall. Then, he started getting the fragrance wherever he goes. He left the town and traveled up to 200 kilometers. Still the fragrance was coming to him and it was so strong that he was unable to eat and sleep. This happened continuously for a month and his life was in danger. Even then, he does not believe in the human incarnation! The devotee requested Swami to stop the miracle and Swami prayed God. The fragrance was stopped. Then, Swami told that the miracle cannot change such rigid persons.
Duryodhana did not change even though Lord Krishna showed cosmic vision (Vishwavarupam). Therefore, there is no use of arguing with such rigid people. He may say that the science will develop some technique in future so that the human body may withstand such huge power to lift the mountain! This means that the fellow will not accept the genuine miracle at any cost. You should not entertain him any more with any further discussion. Salute him and leave him with folded hands saying that he is stronger than the king of this country. The king, having extreme powers, also may accept the logic in your discussion, but such fellow will never accept you and hence he is stronger than the king. Such fellow deserves highest regards, being more powerful than the king and hence you should salute him before you leave him.
At the lotus feet of His Holiness, Shri Datta Swami
Dattaji
http://www.universal-spirituality.org/
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